Page 24                                                  Summer  1991

 

Penn & Teller Hate Juggling ... As Much as Magic

By Dave Jones

 

It is safe to say that in the world of variety arts Penn & Teller are BIG. They sell out large theatres wherever they go, they host television specials, they star in their own movies. They have risen slowly and steadily from being street performers to becoming Broadway stars.

 

The duo first met in 1974. At the time Teller (his complete name) was a high-school Latin teacher in Trenton, N.J., and Penn Jillette (the tall, talkative one) was a street-performing juggler in Philadelphia.

 

Penn had grown up in Greenfield, Mass., and began juggling with his next­door neighbor, best  friend, and recent MacArthur grant recipient Michael Moschen. That was in 1967, when juggling was viewed much differently than it is today. Penn said, "Juggling was still a very arcane performing skill. It was something that creeps did. If you did it at a party it was like sticking a nail up your nose. It wasn't exactly grotesque, but it wasn't normal fare."

 

But the prevailing opinion didn't discourage Penn and Moschen, who continued practicing. They performed together for several years, doing club passing, but their individual styles developed in markedly different directions.

 

Moschen worked on fluid, dance-inspired movements. Penn developed smooth, technically strong juggling, but the juggling became a backdrop for perceptive comedy. There was also "The Attitude," an essential ingredient in Penn's desired effect - a funny, entertaining and impressive show. "I always tried to juggle as though I was too cool to ever have practiced," he said. Some kind of attitude is important, he believes, for juggling to be something more than an "Olympic event" in which the only message conveyed is how much the performer has practiced.

 

He said, "For the most part, with juggling you have someone being virtuosic about being virtuosic. They do something that has no content, but do it really, really well. Take for instance, Eddie Van Halen playing the guitar. You always have something more to concentrate on than his fingers moving and the practice he's put in. You have music, you have art, you have emotion."

 

The basic physical moves of juggling, he believes, contain no emotional impact to keep people interested. There is just the awareness of a great deal of practice. "You can't perceive, in an artistic way, the difference between five balls and seven balls," he said. "You can do the work, you can do the math, but there's not even a subtlety there. When Eddie Van Halen plays a riff a little faster, it means something within the emotion. The worst you can say about a guitar player is that he has some chops, but no content, no taste. But with juggling, your taste is your chops."

 

Penn cites his old partner, Moschen, as someone who has blended content with his juggling. Penn said, "When Mike Moschen does stuff, you have a real-time visual beauty. He creates in motion, in real time, what a painter or a dancer would."

 

That's a high compliment from a man not long on compliments. And there's more! Penn continued, "If people choose to look back at juggling in 100 years, the only name they're going to mention is Mike Moschen. The only real substantial change in juggling in 100 years... Mike is doing deeply different things, deeply gut­level different things. He's out where you never see people in the variety arts go."

 

Penn said most people can't imagine that he and Moschen were once juggling partners. "I would love at some point to have a videotape of Mike and I actually juggling together, because I have yet to

find anyone who can really picture the two of us working together," he said.

 

But they did work together. They performed at Great Adventure amusement park, doing club passing. "We used to dance around the room if we could hold a nine club pass together, even for aminute. We thought we were geniuses because we could hold eight comfortably. Of course, one person can do eight by himself now," he added.

 

Penn admits that juggling technique has improved greatly since the days when he was juggling for a living, but he doesn't like the way the public's perception of juggling has changed.  "When you pulled out three balls in 1973, what was going through people's minds was 'I saw a deformed midget do that once.' But when you pulled out three balls in the '80s, it was 'a guy in my dorm room used to do that.' I can't put up with something so common," he said.

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